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 on: July 29, 2017, 12:06:22 PM 
Started by Ed Schilling - Last post by Ed Schilling
Hey Steve, it came back for me to "do some things" (top secret). These changes were made based on the Ultimate but do not include the x-formers. Since it was in the original case and was not up to "the current standard" it was just easier to build another with the "changes". All that I have ever built could incorporate these changes assuming they are worthwhile. Time will tell.

The new one does not have gain, that was not the intent and the circuit is identical to them all.

Keep in mind, there is no guarantee of a future review but the possibility exists. We'll see but one thing is for sure, it will not be anytime soon.

Hope this helps!

 on: July 29, 2017, 11:20:03 AM 
Started by Ed Schilling - Last post by Steve F

I'm surprised it came back. Unless he is hoping for "The Incredibly Ultimate Truth" version 2.2. Did he give a clue as to when the review is forthcoming?


 on: July 28, 2017, 12:08:38 AM 
Started by Ed Schilling - Last post by Ed Schilling
Well, as many of you know, I love toys. The less useful the better. With that in mind..............  The Truth that Arthur reviewed has come back to me (it's all good, trust me Smiley ) and I was going to sell it but I realized I'd like a toy more than the money. Helen on the other hand is going to kill me but it is what it is. The review Truth has 4 inputs and 2 outputs and remote. It is the old case.

Here's what I want.....  from here, so I can return it if it really sucks!

Soooooo.....if anyone would like to own the review Truth shoot me e-mail and get me one on the way Smiley

Thanks !

 on: July 24, 2017, 05:10:16 AM 
Started by Ed Schilling - Last post by theophile
I was re-reading your post Steve. Two things:

I agree if a little gain can be added at the next stage after The Truth, there still can be good results. The result of that doesn't have to be disastrous. I'm willing to concede that not needing gain after The Truth would probably be the demonstrable optimum outcome. However, given a truly great Source feeding into The Truth, the extent of what Ed's marvel can convey of the excellence of the Source would in particular circumstances override the deficiency introduced by the slight gain.

A component can come up with a better net result music and sound-wise if it has access to the highest quality feed possible. For a quality stage which has the option of applying some extra gain after The Truth, that added capability that The Truth excels at, gives the next stage the best for it to work with. An excellent next stage can't provide Caviar if the input is Manure.

 on: July 20, 2017, 08:59:33 AM 
Started by Ed Schilling - Last post by Steve F
In my system, which has an active crossover, the Truth couldn't drive the crossover enough to get my amps to provide anything more than background music level. I had the Truth volume pegged. I had to add about 3-4 DB of gain at the crossover to drive the amps. I notice no change in sound quality between stock and with boost in sound quality.  For those who need a little extra, an after Truth stage may be the answer.
I can't see how an input tranny would be better. Certainly not for the money.

Before anybody reads this the wrong way, I love the Truth. In like 99% of systems, it will be damn near perfect.


 on: July 20, 2017, 01:37:01 AM 
Started by Ed Schilling - Last post by theophile
I can absolutely appreciate your unwillingness to compromise the capability of The Truth Ed. You stick to your guns Sir. Thank you for your utter honesty and candor.

 on: July 18, 2017, 09:19:28 PM 
Started by Ed Schilling - Last post by Ed Schilling
Hey Tphile, well sort of. The experiment was a success from my point of view but in the end the gain was not without compromise. The xformers were never supposed to improve anything, as you know. Their purpose was simply to add 6-8 db of gain on one input without affecting the sound in any way regardless of cost. The experiment was not a complete failure but The Truth is so over the top that any compromise is just that. The whole effort is to have guys with not enough gain from their phono stage which they may love not to have to replace it for one with more gain to be able to know The Truth. Going after the one part of the market not open to me..............guys with not enough gain from ether the digital source or their phono. They were "audible". Just barely but they were not "invisible". That was the goal, so in that respect it was a "not good enough attempt". Would I be happy with them? Hell yea but they were not mine and I do not need them......I just want them Smiley

I'd say that I'd be happy with the result of the added gain if I needed it but since I have the Transcendent Phono Stage with 54 db of gain it's a real non issue.

So, the idea is not dead but there is more work to do..............doubling the cost of The Truth for 6-8 db on one input and having ANY compromise in sound is not acceptable.

So, still working on it and there are a lot of ways to skin a cat!

Hope this helps.

 on: July 18, 2017, 08:57:11 PM 
Started by Steve F - Last post by Ed Schilling
Steve, Henry, yep 10-30 weight synthetic motor oil. Guy at VPI told me to use that so I did. I doubt any of this matters. If it's running on an oil film it's probably just fine.

 on: July 18, 2017, 07:27:59 PM 
Started by Steve F - Last post by Henry
Henry, thank you. Is that the stuff Ed used to lube his turntable bearing?

Steve, I think Ed used 30w oil in his VPI and it free spins for a very long time.

I have a heavy and finicky 44 lb. platter on a turntable and Slick 50/synthetic oil blend is the best I've found.  It was designed to replace one quart of oil when changing auto oil.  A quart will last forever.  I've used Slick 50 in a VPI HW19 and it seems happy.

I haven't tried the Tufoil engine treatment or their other products for the platter bearing, it may be good as well.

 on: July 18, 2017, 05:59:39 PM 
Started by Steve F - Last post by Steve F
Henry, thank you. Is that the stuff Ed used to lube his turntable bearing?


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